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Star Trek: Into Darkness requisite squee

In case you've somehow been under a rock for the last day, the trailer for the sequel to ST:XI came out last night - Star Trek: Into Darkness. I've reposted blow, for your veiwing pleasure. 


Here's the English version:


And here's the subtitled Japanese version with 19 extra seconds:



And IDK about you, but careful watching and pausing has confirmed for me that Cumberbatch's character is either a Vulcan or Romulan - the latter would make more sense, given ST:XI, but the stuff mentioned about family in the Japanese version reminds me a little of ST:X (Star Trek: The Final Frontier, ie the really bad one with Spock's half-brother). 

But I am beyond excited here. Seriously, my squee is infinite and I really hope I've done the math right so I'll be getting out of Basic the same time ST:XII comes out. (And, before you ask, no, I did not plan it that way. It is a happy coinsidence.) 

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One of the things I've always loved about the Roddenberry universe was that it depicted a brighter, more hopeful future for humanity than most of the sci-fi out there. While I *love* the Reboot, and the whole AR timeline thing, I admit, this doesn't feel as much like Star Trek to me as Dark Knight... and I was not a DK fan. :-(

Hope I'm wrong and that the good guys still win in the end...
never saw The Dark Knight (I despise DC comics), but I LOVE anything that's dark and bleak. (Phyrric victories are the best - in fiction). The reboot is one of my favourite movies ever as a result.

Though I DID decide during my 8 hours of driving today that Cumerbach's character is most likely a Vulcan out to avenge his planet. For what it's worth.
I'm not opposed to dark--it's just that the one thing that made Roddenberry's universe unique was his vision of the future. I just don't want to see the franchise turning into the same old same old, you know?
true. Roddenberry's ST was very utopian. But, as later STs pointed out, that utopia wasn't as perfect as we were led to believe. And I saw something on Cracked! once that pointed out that Roddenberry's ST was essentially depicting a society in decay, out looking for the newest babbles because it couldn't entertain itself anymore. That it had ceased to create.

I think it's a side effect of 9/11 (mom blames a lot of tv tropes on 9/11). People don't believe in utopia anymore. it's all dark and danger and terror and whatnot. Granted, I never entirely cared for utopia before then, but I think the whole dark-in-fiction is a side effect of 9/11 as much as anything else.
Definitely a result of 9/11 (though most sci-fi universes before and after ST were much worse). I can just remember when the nature of the show changed during Enterprise, and I hated some of the elements introduced at that time. The revamped Battlestar Galactica was the same way--the idea that we couldn't trust anyone because we didn't know who the enemy was--not even ourselves.

What made ST unique was the sense of Team among the crew of the Enterprise--that to be a crew member was because you were the best. You *wanted* to be good enough to be a member of the Enterprise crew. They retained that element in the reboot, which is one of the reasons it worked so well for me.

It's one of the major things I think went wrong with the Stargate franchise. When they stopped making the Team the focus and it became a series about not very nice people making reprehensible decisions for selfish reasons. My two cents, but then again, I have a terrible head cold and am feeling grumpy about it, sorry!
Definitely "be all that you can be" is a real ST motto. (Though, for some series, like BSG, I think it could only ever work darkly. A HAPPY post apocalyptic society never would have worked half as well.) and I agree with you that Team is what made SG1 and SGA. SGU had none of that, and as such I could never get into it. (Though SG1 went downhill for me the moment Mitchell stepped in, taking over like he'd earned the right even though he really, really hadn't. But anyway.)
ENT is one of my favourite shows, but I literally cannot stand it before S3. Yes, it was dark, but it had a story arc, which made up for it. Actions had consequences. Which I guess is all that I'm really asking for - for actions to have consequences, and it's just that Dark actions have more/more interesting consequences than good ones.
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