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The Great SyFy Rewatch 2: "The Torment of Tantalus"

Week 2
Stargate: SG-1 "The Torment of Tantalus"
Summary | Transcript | GSFR 1 | SU
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That was so completely unfair that I told Tantalus to go chase a donut, which didn't help his mood.

Ah, this episode. The start of so much as far as the Ancients and everything else is concerned.

Granted, I hate flashbacks, but there's something exciting about seeing Paul McGillian in a non-Carson role (without the accent) is amusing. And kind of creepy. (No, I take it back. Flashbacks are irritating. I hate them.)

General George "Teddy Bear" Hammond. I like that.

I forget how they don't know who built the Stargate until fairly late in the game. The fact that they're searching for poof the goa'uld didn't in this one is kind of amusing. But I love the development of the mythos that takes place in this episode. The goa'uld didn't build the Stargates. Four species managed to survive the development of WMDs and work together to build something wonderful. It's... a monumental, inspirational idea.

Earnest is surprisingly sane after 50 years alone.

Considering that all he had to work with was his notebook, Earnest learned a lot about Heliopolis.

The timeliness of their arrival is circumspect, with the storm and all.

The Alliance of Four Great Races. Again, a brilliant idea. Very Federation of Planets-y, but on a more realistic scale. After all, the odds of there being any number of advanced technological species capable of space travel is about 10 at any one time. The Four Great Races is far more realistic than the Federation. And the fact that they're all gone now makes it even more poignant. It is the nature of life to destroy itself.

I like seeing Sam in her element, jury-rigging the Stargate and just doing SCIENCE on a grand, epic scale with whatever she has in her tool belt. Still, how likely is it that she has wires and clamps and all of that in her bag?

How is shooting the book supposed to help? Really? What does that accomplish?

Still. Daniel's devotion to knowledge is both wonderful, inspiriting, and foolhardy. I admire it and shake my head at it. I want him to find the meaning of life, but not at the cost of his own life. But he keeps searching. Which is admirable as well.

Did they ever tell them about the Asgard? After they met them, I mean? Or the Nox? Or any of that?


Quotes to Stich Onto Throw Pillows
DANIEL: No, not humans, aliens. This is Thor's race.
EARNEST: Thor was a Alien?
DANIEL: Oh yeah, that's another long story. But uh...good one.

DANIEL: Ah...No! You don't understand, this book could contain knowledge of the universe. I mean this is meaning of life stuff...

EARNEST: No prize is worth attaining if you can never share it, there would be no point. Believe me, I know.
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The Four Great Races is far more realistic than the Federation. And the fact that they're all gone now makes it even more poignant. It is the nature of life to destroy itself.
This is so true and probably my favorite part of this post :D I wish we had learned more about this alliance~ I do love the idea of a Federation of planets; kind of like in s5 of SGA "Inquisition", where planets of the Pegasus Galaxy finally band together.

I really want to read epic-lengthed fic where - back in s1 when they were isolated - Atlantis pretty much starts the idea of a confederation of planets~
That would be lovely. Maybe one day.

(My post is awful. I was half asleep. and still am).

But it's true though. You go through the Drake Equation. You substitute all the things we know and then add in all the things we surmise. We've never come in contact with life from other worlds. This means they're either a) not interested, b) not there, c) not listening/unable to listen, or d) lifting us sit in our own juices. the odds of life existing in the universe are incredible. The odds of life existing at the same time as us and being able/willing to talk to us are almost miniscule. Any races that exist in the galaxy are going to be so far beyond us it's not funny, or else incapable of space travel at all. The galaxy is likely to be filled with a few species of vastly different capabilities who are a) few and far between and b) largely pacifistic to survive as long as they have. As much as I love the Federation of Planets, it's unrealistic in the extreme concerning the number of races at the same level of development across the galaxy. The odds, as they are, are not in our favor.
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